My first time posting. Saw it in the Harvey Norman catalogue..
2 for $74 Google Home Mini
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Its super good as a speaker you can just ask "Play some relaxing music or listening to the news "Whats the news from the Australian"
Ask it to talk dirty to you.
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Catalogue actually says "74.20".
Super duper tiny tho
I think it's a term & condition, not a price. If you look at the bottom it says:
This catalogue must be read subject to the terms & conditions set out at https://www.harveynorman.com.au/catalogues/ (which include the Raincheck Policy). *3, *4, *9, *12, *20.
This catalogue isn't listed there yet but you can see the T&Cs reference things with a star and a number.
Google really trying to push these into people's homes… I have two
of course..
more ways for Google to know you so that they can serve you better ads..Google should be paying us, not we pay them..
In "1984" it warned about this mass home surveillance..
How ironic that people are willing to pay for it, just cos it marketed as a "home assistant/automation" devices.
Not to mention, we do not know if NSA has any secret exploits that haven't been revealed yet.
So the Nutrition Society of Australia wants to know that your eating right
Quick upload your deals on foil, with instructions on origami hat making 😁
Is PRISM fake news?
Are Snowden's leaks fake news?You sound like the perfect type of sheep that the NSA loves.
LOL…
Why would I try to stop you?Who are you?
You think too highly of yourself
You are not that importantIf you want to continue being a dumb sheep, so be it.
I don't give a shit.NSA loves people like you.
LOL not trying to stop anything, and how would I physically stop you?
It's your money.I don't give a shit..
But yes, continue to be the dumb sheep that NSA loves..
Sharing in North Perth?
PM
Sydney North Shore if anyone wants to share?
Damn I paid $63 as a Christmas present 7 weeks ago. Just wrapped it tonight. They're almost giving them away now
Bugger. Bought a Home from JBHIFI on Friday. Then. Mini today for 54. And now I see this. Darn. I guess 3 minis and a Home wouldn’t hurt. :)
Mini in every room of the house
I need an honest man or woman for me to share this gadget, willing to pay 50% deposit on 1 device.
Aww.
PayPal me for my profile pic
Anyone want to share around Sydney Eastern suburb?
Wow the NSA really is pushing these hard! Joking, I just love making fun of privacy warriors :-D
Cheers for sharingdid you watch snowden movie?
nothing wrong with protecting your privacy.even the mark zuckerberg covers his laptop camera..
and look at all those zero day exploits that NSA kept secret for themselves that were leaked..
Stop spamming alarmist crap, this literally has less functionaility than any smartphone, webcam, laptop or most IP cameras, all of which have and continue to be hacked. You should have had this argument with Alexander Bell in 1876.
You're stupid if you don't think having these devices is a vector which can be exploited, you're stupider if you haven't considered all the devices you already use which can do the same thing and worse. What you say pales into insignificance compared to every keystroke and mouseclick which can already be logged by Microsoft, Apple etc.
it is not alarmist crap..
Did I say those other devices aren't as bad..
the point is people are adding yet another device to their home..
that is used by Google to collect data on us to make better ads so they can increase their profits.These devices are always on, always listening..
If NSA has zero day exploits, they can turn these into listening devices..This actually has occurred already when google home was constantly recording
and Google had to issue a fixWhat the snowden files and movie has shown us is how prevalent the NSA spying is
and how it easy it is for them to access anyone's webcam + pc + data..Why would I have an argument with Alexander Bell?
What's that got to do with this surveillance and data collecting issue?Ha!
I dare you to say 'stupider' again!
I double dare you!There's a serious problem with your logic.
It's like saying someone has gone and stabbed me in the left testical, so there's really no issue if someone else stabs me in the right testical, and anyone who thinks that's a problem is spamming alarmist crap!I'd prefer to protect both my balls as much as possible, but if you'd prefer to have yours swinging in the breeze then knock yourself out.
@AngryChicken: yes but the answer is actually more data and useless dick pics… Drown them in so much irrelevant data that they'll basically have to target specific people or sift through mountains of crap.
I don't disagree. The amount of noise people make about Google Home though is disproportionate to the risks, particularly relative to the risks people already accept. How many security posts do people make about a Xiaomi IP camera that has video and microphone capability with data going to Chinese servers? My guess is zero.
@bxpressiv: (1) An always-on microphone is pervasive, (2) Not everyone accepts this level of invasiveness, (3) Plenty of comments re privacy implications of Xiaomi IP camera if you look, together with guidance on how to avoid it, (4) Not zero. BTW you made the very same logic mistake again. Pay attention in class!
I completely agree. Every single Google Home deal someone spreads some alarmist crap like it's new news just to make them feel good about themselves.
The truth is, we all know. If you are that concerned, that's fine, there's an easy solution - don't buy one. I don't see why every time a deal comes up, this argument props up. For all we know, our phones, TVs, game consoles, cars, GPS units…etc. could all be spying on us. It's not that I don't care about my privacy, I take what steps I can to protect it and understand that the rest is a compromise.
Ultimately, being a tall poppy and yelling every time a deal is posted doesn't make you smart, it just makes you look like a loser harping on about the same talking points.
@bxpressiv: First I have heard about this camera actually. This kind of exploitation should be included in it's specifications / description, so people make a purchase with full awareness.
there are posts about the xiaomi cameras going to chinese servers as well.
Instead of calling us alarmist
Why don't you ask yourself if Edward Snowden would approve of these devices?
After all he did once worked for NSA and he leaked all those secret exploits the NSA were hoarding
including PRISM.What government agencies have you worked for?
You sound like the perfect sheep that the NSA/Big Brothers loves.
Why don't you just open your house door and let any strangers come and go through your house freely?
@AngryChicken: even if you're not alarmist per se (like throwing the word Snowden around) there's a growing group of people who seem to make it their business to criticise people who'd just "rather not".
What I mean is for example I don't upload anything to the cloud esp when we're talking short range sending. Like sending pics to a relatives phone - usually compressed to shit - through a web app or cloud storage instead of just bluetooth/NFC thing. It just never needs to be on the internet in any form in the first place even if it's just a photo at a restaurant. And yes there is an irony that lots of people scream about privacy usually are the same people who go sharing anything and everything then wonder how "they" know lol.Luckily for this deal in particular I'm not interested in any home automation stuff (yet).
…someone spreads some alarmist crap like it's new news just to make them feel good about themselves.
Telling us how passive you are like it's news just to make yourself feel good about yourself is just boring me.
…being a tall poppy and yelling every time a deal is posted doesn't make you smart, it just makes you look like a loser…
It's tall poppies like you yelling doesn't make you smart, it just makes you look like a loser.
Nup, it sounds like delusional psychobabble when i say it as well.
Get a grip bro.Not sure what you're trying to tell me…
I wouldn't call Snowden alarmist, though my focus is more on identity fraud and corporate misuse.
@AngryChicken: nothing on particular haha. Just the overall vibe that I've gotten the "alarmist" talk simply for thinking it's dumb to upload something to the internet to send it to the bloke sitting next to you or that just because it's unlikely to be hacked or damaging at all doesn't mean it should still be uploaded "just because".
It does come back to simple measures to guard against corporate or private misuse.
You should be posting deals for tinfoil hats instead of commenting on google homes
Zuckerburg has a reason to cover his camera.
Pinkybrain who?
So you don't mind some hacker or NSA employee
spying on your family, wife, girlfriend, kids while they are changing or while you are rooting your wife or girlfriend?And then posting that video on a porn site?
I guess that is not a strong enough reason for you
then no worries, please keep being an ignorant sheep.@pinkybrain:
That’s absolutely NOT a strong argument. Just because there’s is now a plethora of smart devices in peoples homes it doesn’t automatically mean a hacker is going to post videos of me ‘rooting my wife’ it means there is a slightly increased chance of it happening.This may shock you but I choose to drive a car, even though I KNOW people DIE from car accidents EVERY DAY. I dont play LOTTO but I know people become MILLIONAIRES from the lottery.
Every decision you make is one of possibilities. You believe the risk isn’t worth taking, others think it is. Let’s all find our peace with that. No one is a sheep and no one is a tin foil hat wearer. We just have different tolerances for risk. Peace. Happy 2018. X
of course it is a strong argument,
and I wasn't even replying to you..
don't even know why you suddenly jump into this conversation.If you have your camera uncovered
it means you are making it easier for hackers/NSA, foreign governments to spy on your bedroom/house, should they have hacked it or use an exploit…If you are not so concerned about security, why don't you just leave your door unlocked and leave it wide open when you leave the house?
Sure, a thief might not go into your house right now (cos they don't know it is open) but you have made it so much easier for them to be able to.
This is basically the same thing.
Before PRISM and snowden leaks, I don't think people were as aware of how pervasive and intrusive the NSA/hackers are able to easily access any one's devices including any webcams, PCs, Smart TVs…
People might have heard the odd news stories about some hacker accessing someone's webcam or baby monitor..
but not this big level of NSA government intrusiveness and how easy it is for them to do so.Now that the leaks have occurred,
you would be pretty dumb to leave your webcam uncovered.And sure these google home devices are marketed by Google as smart assistants, smart home devices
but you would be pretty dumb to not know that they are just gateways for Google to build more data profile about you
to to make more profit from targeted advertising.And if the NSA happens to have any zero day exploits for these devices
they would definitely be using it fully for data collection and wire tapping.You think that just because you're not a terrorist,
that the NSA is not collecting data on you?
You are wrong!As it has been shown from snowden leaks
the NSA has collected everyone's data..Why?
Because they deem it necessary part of big data analytics,
which involves X connected to Y which is connected to Z etc..Basically they think every bit of data is useful somehow
because it may be connected somewhere else.
But since they don't where or when it is useful
they just collect everything.If you don't want to believe me
then go do yourself a favour and
watch some snowden interviews/lectures on youtube.@pinkybrain: you didn’t even try to answer my point.
I know all of what you’re saying. I know more gadgets in my home increases the chances of it being used against me in a nefarious way. I also happen to believe that the chances of that happening are small enough be worth the risk.
Unless your are typing this from an Internet cafe I’m assuming you feel the same. I guess you own a laptop/ smartphone or maybe both.
The argument you’re putting forward is simply one of tolerances. I’m assuming you don’t put your laptop in the microwave when you’re not using it.
(Oh and just to give you peace of mind. My laptop is always turned off when not in use, lid closed and in the front room. Its never used when I am giving my wife some sugar)
People smoke, we know it can give you cancer but they still smoke. I like a drink but I know it’s not good for me. Maybe you like junk food. You know it can give you heart disease. For me the risk of having great tech in my house is worth it. If I get burned by that later then maybe I’ll have a different view. I’m sure every smoker who gets lung cancer probably has regret.
It’s not a lack of awareness my friend. I believe I take reasonable precautions for my home internet security. But you have to make some concessions if you want to have certain things.
X
Google is already stalking me.
Why on earth would i want to give them even more intimate access to my body?@stevles, you won't be laughing once the pogroms start. BTW, is that your real head?
"1984" book/movie warned about this mass surveillance government..
it is ironic that people are willing to pay google
they should be paying us..Yes, the "Big Brother" is watching you taken to another level. 👀👀👀
Doctor Who has shown quite a few similar scenarios too. 😲
I believe the first "alien" corruption happened during the Queen's coronation. 👽👾😨……… and what about that episode where Queen Victoria became a werewolf?
(Sorry; kind of off topic).
Absolutely right guys. I can tell that everytime i talk with someone about a topic, there is a ad relevant to that topic few days down the track on my phone. Very creepy indeed since i never searched for these things. I got it as a gift. Passed it to one of my friend. Don't want more surveillance in my home.
I'm talking real life, not TV life.
Just thought i should make that clear.@AngryChicken: Oh that's quite fine. Just about everything we do is scrutinised in one way or another now.
My comments just a (not so innocent) comparison of the "1984" book to what the modern take is. I don't think many under 20 actually would have read it, but most probably have seen a few Doctor Who episodes.
Merry Christmas all! 🎅🎄
@JediJan: Most folk don't have much of an idea about the privacy implications. Most assume they'll be safe. It's when they're not, for example if they become victims of identity fraud, that they awake from their slumber. I maintain several identities just in case someone pinches one of them. Right now i'm Mavis the Curtain Rod. I should read 1984 again, just as some light reading. Cheers.
@AngryChicken: Privacy invasion really is the number one crime of this age. I used an atm once that had a skimmer attached, outide a major shopping centre. I, like many others, did not notice anything untoward at all. Received an sms to say to visit my bank asap; found my account was frozen until I changed my pin number etc. I was one of the more fortunate ones whose accounts had not been compromised. There was no report of this in the local papers etc. of the incidence.
"Mavis the Curtain Rod" hey; I am not so inventive lol. Bet Mavis could tell a few yarns!😈
If you find "1984" light reading then you may be able to cope with "The Gulag Archipelago" by Alexander Solzenitzen (spelling?); a fair bit heavier; only book I could not finish. 😲
It doesn't even need to be Facebook or anything you directly search. Think big data analytics, trend analysis can be used to say X% of people browsed or purchased Y brand and a trend exists showing most use these Z number of unrelated sites prior to going there. So even if you haven't developed an interest in Y, analysts could see you frequent Z unrelated sites and target ads for products you don't even know you like yet.
@bxpressiv: I don't do Facebook at all although just about everyone I know does. I have ads popping up on Yahoo etc. about things I have seen on eBay or junk mail. Yahoo used to be a much cleaner environment before advertising got too out of hand. eBay well … you kind of expect it.
Supermarket chain loyalty /points programs know your spending habits and so direct their "specials" emails on your future likely purchases. I rarely glance at junk mail but tend to check those emails.
My mobile now has ads popping up even before I unlock it these days, some cutting in before I even complete that which is super annoying. Provider says ads are related to some apps I must have installed … but which ones I am yet to find out. Battle not won yet!
The Gulag Archipelago is a book by sociologist and historian Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn about the Soviet forced labor camp system. The three-volume book is a narrative relying on eyewitness testimony and primary research material, as well as the author's own experiences as a prisoner in a gulag labor camp.. Nice. I'll read it to my pet fish.
I use an alias for online purchases. For real. Everything is BS except the delivery address. Once you've got a dedicated mobile phone you can do it too. A little bit interesting when you go to the PO though if you miss delivery - signing the card for both. Use a pre-paid CC such as Oz Post's pre-paid Load&Go and link that to PayPal. Using an alias is not unlawful (don't use a real identifiable persons name), though i'd be in breach of a raft of T&C's (so sue me). All my real mail goes to a PO Box. Hard core baby! Costs a little more though - recent case where refund went to expired pre-paid CC. Oops.
Don't do FB - used to but everyone seemed to be living absolutely amazing lives which doesn't really work for me when i'm cleaning the dunny.
@AngryChicken: Correct book; really depressing read, even worse reading during the Winter months! People did not attempt to escape because their families would have been taken too.
When mail is to be signed for mail at home PO son always has to produce ID, whereas they never ask me for some reason. That seems a bit sexist really. Collecting mail in the name of "Mavis the Curtain Rod" etc. would be an experience lol!
In general, as far as I understand it, you can use whatever name you wish in most scenarios, so long as you are not doing so for illegal / fraudulent reasons.
Don't worry myself too much about privacy concerns, but can quite understand those that do. I would like to see heavier controls put in place, and harsher penalties for those who try to steal from others. Many appear to target older people who are generally more trusting and vulnerable.
I also use a prepaid credit card (for many years) linked to a loyalty program, as well as the usual. Comes in handy for online purchases as well as PayPal. I put a few hundred on it every fortnight for grocery etc. shopping and give it to son. Should arrange a card in his name too, but he has never been questioned about ownership of card. I find that a bit peculiar; apparently never checked?
Facebook has it's uses such as family sharing their news and photos, but I think it encourages stalking. Have had that unpleasant experience in the past so am more reclusive than most.
Possibly experienced more than my share of regular Federal Police checks because of the nature of my jobs, but I don't have any issues with it.
Don't mind the idea of wearing a microchip one day, as at least I wouldn't have to bother with a wad of cards that can be copied. Yes, I realize that would freak most people out, and nothing is really secure; everything open to misuse. Can see this or similar ID technology used in the future though; seems unavoidable to me.
@JediJan: Oh at the PO i usually have to produce ID, but they know me anyway as that's where the PO Box is. It's just the other guy they've never met.
@AngryChicken: Lol 😁
Never mind; I don't think they really take that much notice anyway, so long as your post gets delivered to the right person they are happy.
I have a registered letter to pick up from the 22nd but as I know what it is (just another rent hike) no hurry to collect… massive queue. Wonder what happens if I don't collect.
have two minis in the house already we are having issues with the robots talking to each or answering the wrong human questions. missus luvs the kitchen one for recipes. no more asking me to set times or convert pounds or find soy sauce substitutes or what internal temperature means fish is cooked and that was just last night :)
You're sounding, well, expendable…
Bit much when household is not speaking to each other, but when the robots are ignoring each other too, that puts an totally new concept to the meaning of snobbery and bad manners!
Wait till you have Alexa so Google and Alexa can communicate with each other
Anyone from Adelaide who wants to split … Message me pls. I m Keen on one
I have it on good authority from someone that I know that works at JB that JB Hi-Fi is also doing the same bundle pricing tomorrow! So there will be lots of options of where to buy from.
Just called JB and they know nothing about it. He even scanned in two for me but came up as normal pricing.
the 2 fer deal starts 1 january.
It's understandable to have privacy concerns but if you already use an android phone what's the difference
I have the impression that Google Home is so much more pervasive.
If you're already getting rogered, i would personally object to any deeper penetration.Depends if you use Google now on your phone I think its about The same. The phone may be more pervasive because it's always with you, from Dawn til dusk.
But it's not constantly recording me, and to some degree i can nobble the phone…
@AngryChicken: that's true, it only listens when youre Charging or your phone is on, which for me is pretty much all the time lol. But for others maybe different.
Very true when every app wants to access your location and contacts and messages etc
Only want 1. Anyone North side brisbane want to share?
I am interested. Located @Kedron
Going on hols now. May grab one off you when I return.
Lower north shore, Sydney. Anyone wanna split?
Keen to buy as well - in St Leonards - Let me know.
So is it onsale tomorrow or Jan 1st as mentioned above?
Just talked to a rep online, it might only be available at the start of 2018.
There's no catalogue online.Thanks.
It's still showing at $48 so guess we'll have to wait.
Good deal but store rep saying it commences at Jan 1.
This post needs to change - there's no deal yet
THIS CATALOGUE IS NOT ON SALE UNTIL 01/01/2018. CURRENT SALES CATALOGUE FROM 26/12/2018 IS "HALF YEARLY CLEARANCE SUPER DEALS", WHICH IS BLACK IN COLOUR.
Is Fitbit Charge 2 for $67 on the same catalogue? OP's photo cut it off.
I want to know how much is the fitbit too.
Today, the fitbit is $134. Not sure but does look like 67 in jan 2018
OKAY THANK YOU
So the deal is the 1 Jan?
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