Ideal for a home NAS. Got 4x bays for extra storage.
Best price i have seen for N40L in recent times.
HP MicroServer N40L 2GB 250GB 4x 3.5" SATA $221.09 + Delivery
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Read: if they can get stock quicker than Megabuy snapping them all up like last time.
They must have just changed it to back order. I ordered 4x this morning for myself and few friends.
Excuse the noob question, but does this come with any storage in it already?
250GB SATA hdd and 2GB ECC memory
Thanks
No stock/backordered. Will they honour the current price if they get ozbargained
Quick specs here:
http://h18000.www1.hp.com/products/quickspecs/13716_div/1371…
At A GlanceProcessor: AMD Turion™ II Neo N40L (1.5GHz) AMD RS785E/SB820M chipset Memory: Two (2) DIMM slots 2GB (1x2GB) Standard or 4GB (1x4GB)/8GB Maximum, using PC3-10600E DDR3 Unbuffered (UDIMM) ECC memory, operating at max. 800MHz Storage Controller: Embedded AMD SATA controller with RAID 0, 1 Embedded AMD eSATA controller for connecting external storage devices via the eSATA connector in the rear of the server Internal Drive Support: 4 Internal HDD Support Maximum internal SATA storage capacity of up to 8.0TB (4 x 2TB 3.5" SATA drives) Network Controller: Embedded NC107i PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Server Adapter Expansion Slots: Slot 1: PCI-Express Gen 2 x16 connector with x16 link Slot 2: PCI-Express Gen 2 x1 connector with x1 Link Slot 2-2: PCI-Express x4 slot for optional management card USB 2.0 Ports: Seven (7) USB 2.0 ports: 4 front , 2 rear, 1 internal (for tape) Power Supply: 150 Watts Non-Hot Plug, Non Redundant Power Supply Management: Optional MicroServer Remote Access Card Operating System: Supports Windows and Red Hat Linux Form Factor: Ultra Micro tower Warranty: This product is covered by a global limited warranty and supported by HP Services and a worldwide network of HP Authorized Channel Partners. Hardware diagnostic support and repair is available for one year from date of purchase. Support for software and initial setup is available for 90 days from date of purchase. Enhancements to warranty services are available through HP Care Pack services or customized service agreements. Hard drives have either a one year or three year warranty; refer to the specific hard drive QuickSpecs for details. NOTE: Server Warranty includes 1 year Next Day Parts replacement, 0-Years Labor, 0-Years Onsite support. Additional information regarding worldwide limited warranty and technical support is available at: http://h18004.www1.hp.com/products/servers/platforms/warrant….64-bit?
There's no pre-installed OS, but obviously it supports 64 bit.
Yes thanks. I am not sure on what to install. WHS 2011/Ubuntu/FreeNas? Lots of choices :O
Is that confirmed? The HP spec page says "Microsoft SBS Essentials 2011 OS pre-install"
This model does not include an OS - Page 10 of the Specs PDF for model 658553-xx1
http://h18000.www1.hp.com/products/quickspecs/13716_div/1371…
store [at] dessytek.com.au to contact them.
I assume they have a VGA port? :P
Yep, standard 15-pin VGA. It's what most servers are still using to this day
Great price. Have been waiting for this to come up again. Let's just hope they honour it.
hmmm
i might order one since i got nothing to lose
if they can't honour the price they cancel
if price goes down, you cancel
Amazon has the same model for $163.93. Only $892 delivery :)
WOW, that is super cheap!! :)
wtf $892 delivery??
I bought the earlier model (1.3ghz I believe) when it was ozbargained for $200 last year… Added 8gb of DDR3 desktop ram (2x4gb) and its been running 24/7 for about 7 months now without a hiccup. Installed ESXi 4.1 and a few debian virtual machines as dev box… Very happy with purchase. Tempted to buy another one but finding no real reason to :) (at home can always run dev boxes in a virtual machine anyhows)…
Oh it IS pay day today… hmmmmmm
Don't think. Buy it:D
I feel so ashamed and dirty - just bought one …..
I swear since I've discovered ozbargain I've spent more money on gadgets and bluray movies then I would have had I NOT known about this site… Oh the irony…..
:D good on you. likewise.
ditto!
thats the whole point of the website, to get your money!
What are these like with ESXi installed? I can't imagine much from it, with a relatively slow CPU, but willing to be surprised :)
Doing a HDPARM on it (not exactly scientific I know) shows cached reads at 1081.33 MB/Sec…
BogoMips is 2595.67This is on one 6.0.3 virtual guest with 3 other guests running at the same time…
Debian according to ESXI uses around 3mhz per core (or around 7mhz in total per vm) when idle. On a VM running postgresql, apache, samba average seems to be around 11mhz…
How did the ESXi install go? Did it recognise everything? Did you try 5.0? Wonder if this new model will work with 5.0 :)
ESXi installation went smoothly - installed from external cdrom drive (as the unit has no external drive).. Box is recognised by ESXi with no problems - not using RAID and from what I've read, onboard raid only seems to work under windows…
I did notice windows 2003 would fall over when trying to install (possibly bug in esxi 4.1.0?). So installed it on a different box (that does work) and then simply migrated it with no issues ..
Have not tried esxi version 5.0 and no plans to upgrade - version 5 has that horrible vram they have implemented and while this server will not be affected by it (8gb max) I'm considering switching over to HyperV instead as a result for principle reasons.
Yes the cpu may be slow but for a development environment its adequate, small and compact.. You'd get more performance out of a virtualbox running on an i3 and above, but its a small box that sits in the corner running script jobs at different times of the day (and night) and gently sips power.
Thanks for the info
Competition in the virtualisation space should be seen as a good thing. If and when HyperV manages to catch up in terms of performance, reliability and features, VMware will be forced to lower its price. You don't want to end up with the situation we got with Windows where one vendor just monopolised the market…
I put 8GB of RAM in mine - not the expensive ECC type and it runs okay.. so far.
Boot Esxi5 off an USB and run WHS-2011 from a VM and Ubuntu VM for old times sake.
Tried FreeNAS as a VM under Esxi5 but could not get it working properly and after many hours of OW nagging, gave up. One day I will get back to it.
When I 1st got it I put OpenMediaVault on it - simple and more than adequate. Couldn't get PC backups to happen easily so bought WHS-2011 and the went Esxi route.
Esxi recognised everything I neeeded, more often it was the Distro I was trying that had problems.
No pass-though which is a bit of a pain as I was looking to share NFS drives and still have not figured that part out.
Lots of threads and discussions around this device and it's a matter of where do you start!
Esxi5 working well for playing with distros but to get best out it, I think need 2nd NIC.
Seems to run fine with ESXi 5.0 Update 1. I have two of these with 8 GB RAM each, connected up to a Netgear ReadyNAS and can happily run about half a dozen moderately sized virtual machines. As long as the load is not CPU intensive, it's quite acceptable.
Can you get passthrough to work in ESXi with this server?
Have not tried to be honest as I haven't had the need to… I can give it a shot if you want me to try … I think most of my vm's are debian installations and not windows so not sure how much luck I'd end up having in the end.
I built a whitebox that does passthrough. It cost about $700. The cpu was a 2600, 16 gig of ram. I think the motherboard was a z68 or something. If you want to know the specs let me know. If you have built it cheaper, let me know the specs :)
Nope. have seen plenty a thread about it and my Esxi pops up not passthrough capability. Have heard using a separate adaptor will fix it but can't confirm. Not enough googling hours in my day :-)
I got two before and damn this is tempting :(
A better price than Mega Buy, and honest enough to put "back order" instead of lying about stock levels and trying to cover it up later.
Have a plus sign.
Thanks for posting this deal OP.
Can someone please tell me if this NAS server requires the 4 HDD's to be identical? Or can you install 2 x 3TB and 2 x 2TB ?
Do the installed HDD's need to be the exact model numbers? Thanks in advance.
No they can be any storage size but must be all SATA drives.
requires the 4 HDD's to be identical?
Depends on your software, so generally no. It is not hardware RAID.
I think this is a similar model I bought last year from Harris Technology. Using no raid at all, I was able to put in 4 HDD (different sizes, model, brand). I am not sure about the 3TB as the spec says 4 x 2TB drives.
yeah it supports 3-4tb drives
your software needs to run GPT file format which most do
Keep in mind this IS NOT an off the shelf NAS. You will have to load an OS and manually configure it to 'act like' a NAS. If you don't have at least some IT skills then, to paraphrase Obi-Wan Kenobi 'this isn't the NAS you're looking for'.
If you're not the kind who's willing to get dirty with installing FreeNAS or such, you could spend another $125 or so more and buy a proper 4-bay NAS from Synology or Q-NAP. Then all you have to do is put in the HDD and off you go. They even offer hot-swap which this unit will not support (unless you can do it via FreeNAS)
freenas is as simple as it comes
if you can't work it out you deserve to use something by netgear
FreeNAS is pretty good. Couple of gotchas:
1) I find that v8 in 64 bit really benefits with 8 GB of RAM. I just use the standard stuff, no ECC
2) I've had problems when installing it onto slow USB thumb drives. No issues with quicker ones though.I'm a fan of this; they've rolled DLNA back into it now (even though there's a bit of configuration involved).
Succumbed.
Purchased.
My order has just been processed.
As much as I hope Dessytek honour this current pricing, I think people may be jumping the gun on this deal. Has there been any confirmation that they will be able to secure more stock for what will be a growing list of back orders thanks to ozbargain?
apparently megabuy have 5 in stock so they're out there
they did run out a while back
I bet they dont actually have stock. I ordered one when they had "5+ in stock" listed, and even confirmed that they were in stock in the Brisbane warehouse. It even gave a 1-3 day delivery time on the order.
A month later I'm taking a refund as they still haven't delivered.
Megabuy are crooks! :)
There was "definitely" stock in the warehouse when I ordered too.
no date on the the picture… Must have taken last year so they can claim insurance when it needs.
Lots of bad about Megabuy but I ordered mine online when it had 5+ and had it delivered in working days. Ordered on Sunday and delivered to my work on the Friday. I ordered the one with 2x 2TBseagate drives.
Not impressed to see drives wrapped in bubble wrap and taped to the box. They did survive the courier though!
For me, a good experince with Megabuy.
MegaBuy defintely has stock GUARANTEED! I'll also be sure to take a picture for everyone with a date sometime tomorrow. In fact I'd really like you take you up on that bet, what are we betting, how about a Microserver ;)
I'd love to bet a HP microserver… Except i don't have one, remember?
Really………… So you have it in stock. Then why didn't I get one? I ordered on Monday and got an email today that it has been backordered and the ETA for new stock is currently 20/04/2012. Do you have an answer? I should have listened to other people before ordering who said that Megabuy reps are always lying.
So regarding the photo its not a big deal to stamp a date if you know the basics of photoshop.
I'd bet 2 microservers.
no pick up? $16 for shipping.
and 2.4% charge for paypal?use BPAY?
I just recently learned that Paypal surcharge is against the terms and conditions of using Paypal services as a seller.
Nope, slightly incorrect. PayPal dont charge a surcharge, however a seller can still charge a surcharge of any amount - its up to you if you want to pay it.
Nope, slightly incorrect. PayPal dont charge a surcharge, however a seller can still charge a surcharge of any amount - its up to you if you want to pay it.
WRONG. Charging a surcharge is ABSOLUTELY breaking the Paypal User Agreement. See post by Third_Gear above
Just paid, lets see how this goes. Fingers crossed.
Even with the vga port. I still could using this as a temporary media pc for my lounge, 1080p, any thoughts?
Not without adding a sound card of some sort. Also the onboard cpu/gpu may struggle with 1080p video output
Add a low profile PCI express video card with Video & Audio out via HDMI, if your HT receiver supports HDMI.
Currently using one of these GT520 cards in a previous model Microserver as a HTPC. Plays full 1080p blu-ray over gigabit wired lan without any ploblems.
http://www.gigabyte.com.au/products/product-page.aspx?pid=39…
i got the N36L, no problems most of the time.
But cannot handle 1008P 10bit MKV…. :( I wonder what hardware do u need for those.
i tried a few core 2 duo, all cannot handle the 10bit MKV.
What's the noise and heat like when using it like that
mine handles 1080p bluray MKV rips. Do not use VLC, use either xbmc with hardware acceleration or daum potplayer.
I use ATI 6450 and output over hdmi (with sound), but I think other cards will do the same.
On win 7 I get 80MB/s transfer speed with a green drive. All drives show upon network, including a 2gb and 3gb.
the hp NAS from last OzB mega deal is my permanent media pc. just need usb sound and either usb or pci-e tv card….
Is this an alternative or does it suck too much power?
http://www.shoppingsquare.com.au/product.php?id=400089&n=197…
You're comparing a desktop PC to a server class one.
The HP will use less power, looks nicer, smaller, runs SAS harddrives, etc. It's the perfect HTPC/NAS etc.
There really aren't any good viable alternatives in the same price range.
Just Paid, anyone have any experience with DessyTek?
last time this happened they couldn't get stock and refunded everyone
i'm not expecting miracles this time
Question re those who have drives of different sizes and types. What software are you using? Can each drive be seen separately over the network - eg as if each were connected by its own esata cable? Or are all the drives seen as one "logical volume"?
I'm planning to use unraid, haven't used it yet but from what I've read you can mix and match drives as you please and they appear as one big drive. You can set a parity drive that just needs to be as big as your largest drive so that if any of the drives die you can save the data, and you can have a cache drive to stop all of the drives constantly running if you set it up with sabnzbd, couchpotato, sickbeard to download automatically.
Thanks. Sounds pretty flexible. I have 5 sata ports on my media centre motherboard but only space for 2 in the case rack. I am using all 5 so it looks pretty messy with the lid off the case and 3 drives lying on top. Wouldn't mind tidying that all up with a NAS box, but by the sounds of it I'd need some new drives as they would no doubt have to be formatted before use in the NAS box.
I was running Unraid and while it' ok it can be a pain to deal with. There is no generic plugin system supported by the author yet. People on the forums have done work with this but you end up running web interfaces on a couple of different ports just to support the base install (and that's before you install any additional services).
I ended up switching to WHS2011 with FlexRAID and it's much easier to deal with day to day. Works fine with sabnzbd, couchpotato and sickbeard. FlexRAID lets you mix and match drive sizes like Unraid, and has the same advantage as unraid where you can just pull drives out of the array and still access your data (except that FlexRAID runs ntfs so if you run Windows it's way easier to get to your data than with ReiserFS that Unraid uses).
What makes this better than my desktop pc at home that I use to stream files to wdtv and my laptop etc?
Your desktop PC probably has a 650W PSU that sucks up all your juicy power. This uses a low power CPU and PSU and costs next to nothing to run 24/7
Put in an order…hopefully they pull through.
"Best price i have seen for N40L in recent times."
LOL obviously. Prices go DOWN over time, not UP.
Not when there's sudden demand for the product. Last time this was on sale, it was $200 about 7 or more months ago.
Interesting theory OP. How does this apply to hard-disk prices in recent times?
+1 for HP N40L
I've had mine for nearly 5 months & is great as a HTPC. I'm running Win7 64 bit & got a passive 5450 Graphics Card & a Quad TV Tuner Card (which fills HDD Far, Far too quickly - as I record far too much just in case). Unfortunately I only bought one 3 TB Coolspin to try out - just B4 the floods! Only issue is S4 Sleep mode reportedly not supported, but unit still powers its self down & back up for scheduled recordings!Have a look at some of the Microserver forum links, via google (OCAU is great local forum).
Valueable upgrade would be USB 3.0, never the less I'm considering getting another at this price! Even if just to set up some proper backup & try Win Home Server 2011 (if HDD prices ever drop to reasonable levels - at least by then 4 TB may be the norm).
Temped
I bought a N36L from the last deal on Ozbargain, added a GT210 passive video card and 4GB of DDR3 ram. Am using it as a home theatre PC running XBMC on a Ubuntu minimal install. Am tempted to buy another one, must resist temptation..
Between this, the 2tb drives on OW and the 30inch dell monitors I am going to be broke…
Alas I think I shall hold off until disk prices drop a bit more!
Damn you people! I never knew I needed one of these until now! Might put it next to my $199 netbook that doesn't get used! :)
Bought one earlier. I bought a second of the $199 netbooks ($299, until the Acer cash card arrives) a couple of days ago. Both are being used. I intend to put the NL40 to good use too - while enjoying the Lagavulin 16yo I bought yesterday ;-)
excellent, family has the old model and works great can't wait to get this! hopefully backorder not too long…
You can use the top DVD rom bay as a hard disk bay, and Raid all four drives in the bays below.
I bought the last one as a media server. Runs fine for this purpose. I installed OpenElec, which is a little clunky but it's getting better.
Got a low profile Zotac G210 for the HDMI video card. Also OK but sometimes doesn't play nice with other HDMI items (e.g. my Kenwood receiver).
is this better than Synology DS212J 2 Bay NAS Server ???
i never own NAS before
Note: backorder