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Detpak Level 3 Surgical masks: $15.37 for box of 40.
Also much cheaper compared to other retailers. Don't pay more than $19.99 for box of 50.
Also worth looking at Softmed at Chemist Warehouse.
https://www.chemistwarehouse.com.au/buy/102313/softmed-surgi…
this is the big one cmon bro pls
Price should include GST !
AUD $16.91
and what's the rough shipping cost? , I'm not going to make an account just to find out it's crazy high…
Updated price in title to include GST.
Agreed. I’m not registering just to work out the shipping cost. I do need to top up though so maybe Chemist Warehouse ones.
shipping alone is $27.91 to ACT
No, only Optimus prime can stop him
Moronic variant yup whats next lol
Omegacron
Lolll
Better is vaccine-induced immunity.
Better yet is natural-induced immunity.
I was listening to an expert in the field the other week explain that vaccine immunity is actually better than immunity from catching the virus.
Also, if you wait to catch the virus first, there is a significant risk of long term respiratory damage.
@muwu: Is that the argument .. saying South Africa is different to the vaxxed first world as it has a lot more natural infection from the earlier strains and as such vax induced resistance countries might have different reactions than the mild ones to Omicron that SA appears to be experiencing?
@muwu: please post your high quality evidence or whatever source, along with any qualifications that allow you to make such sweeping comments, or otherwise kindly please stop sprouting bullshit.
I'm not an expert in the field. But if you had any background of immunology:
"single antigen B-cell mediated antibody"
literally using 5 words to describe the same thing. Antibodies are (generally) always produced by b-cells, are always single antigens by a single b-cell… I don't know if you're just trying to seem smart or something.
"On a population level, natural infection with earlier strains may prove to have provided lower total morbidity and mortality from emergent strains."
Again where is the evidence for this. Also "may" is the key word there. So i.e. it's a load of bs.
First article you've linked is a pre-print. Please wait until it's peer reviewed and/or opinions from actual experts come out by responses to the article.
Second article is a flipping article from the guardian… and it's an opinion piece. Like everything you've said so far, it's your opinion not based on science and facts. Besides if you think natural infection is so good, please go out and catch COVID and do not present to a hospital for treatment wasting tax payer's money.
@diazepam: You're right.
Understanding how important natural-induced immunity during the evolutionary course of SARS-CoV-2 is a formulation at this stage, not a conclusion. I don't believe it can be tested, but epidemiological comparisons between geographical regions on the effects of more emergent strains on population morbidity and mortality may provide insightful data.
I don't wish to personalise the discussion. Most of us have been studying the pandemic, to varying degrees. I'm triple-vaxed, and my professional employment is related to COVID-19. I'm an individual like everyone else who is invested in minimising the effects of this pandemic and trying to understand what are the most effective policies to achieve the best result.
I believed in vaccinations strongly enough to think they may be enough to achieve herd immunity and provide enough protection to prevent most mortality and return to a COVID-normal socioeconomic state. It doesn't look like we know enough yet about the most recent strain, but Omicron shattered my faith in that. It looks like vaccinations should provide a significant protection against severe disease and death, even with emergent strains, as it did with Delta before it, but unfortunately it doesn't appear to have a significant effect on transmissibility. And higher incidences are sadly the primary problem, as even a small (smaller?) rate of SARS and mortality of a big number is unfortunately still a big number. So I'm fearful of a lot of death with this prospective Omicron wave.
The idea here is that people have been considering what can be done to more effectively combat emerging strains, and with what is known about the effectiveness of natural-induced immunity and the differences in transmissibility and lethality of earlier strains, it's formulated that if we had higher rates of resolved cases gradually accumulated over the last two years we would likely to be more hardy today.
Getting vaccinated, including boosters, is the easiest thing to do to minimise disease and death. I don't think it's cut-and-dry whether strict civil restrictions are necessarily having the best long-term outcome for dealing with humanity's fight against an evolving SARS virus.
I was listening to an expert
Lol. Well it must be true then. Especially if they're on the ABC…
Lol. Well it must be true then.
Much more likely to be true listening to a trained, experienced, medical professional compared to an anti-vaxxer trolling on OzBargain who gets their medical advice from Twitter feeds.
compared to an anti-vaxxer trolling on OzBargain who gets their medical advice from Twitter feeds.
So you went straight from the logical fallacy of argument from authority, straight to a straw man. No wonder the world is a confusing place for you…
trolling on OzBargain
Jv telling someone off for trolling on ozbargain… these are strange times indeed.
It might be that if we had allowed natural infections with Alpha
Then we'd probably have had 30,000 plus deaths…
I'm guessing if that had included any of your family members, you'd have re-thought the rubbish you posted.
I agree with you
It's hard to imagine trying to accept the outcome from such a strategy when it means accepting a higher mortality rate sooner in order to achieve a much lower total mortality rate later.
Dont be so Moronic JV
Irrelevant, the article refers to D95 respirators.
This deal is for level 3 surgical masks.
Level 3 no good. I need level 5
As someone else has pointed out, these refer to the D95, not the surgical masks. The D95 is no longer manufactured. Even so, it only failed the 'high-pressure fluid' test (aka blood splatter), so unless you're planning on wearing this into surgery, which you won't, and if you could buy them, which you can't, you'd be fine.
"One of those types was the D95 mask, which recently failed a high-pressure fluid test conducted by an Australian laboratory.
SA Health has said it is still confident in the mask's performance to protect those who wear it, but has also told health workers to wear a face shield if using them when a fluid strike could occur."
Lots of options on eBay for around $12 delivered.
But if you need masks you don't want to be waiting until after Christmas for delivery.
eBay is full of Chinese made masks that are not made to any standards. Buy with caution.
Ok. Thanks!
eBay is full of Chinese made masks that are not made to any standards.
What standard do you think they need to meet?
According to the actual Public Health Order (NSW), the following specification is required:
1. fits securely around the face, and,
2. is designed or made to be worn over the nose and mouth to provide the wearer with protection against infection.
When that is the official standard, pretty much anything meets the standard. Let's not pretend it is anything other than security theatre
They probably mean the materials used in production, such as dye.
they're worried the mask might get hacked
That is a shame NSW health isn't giving any clear direction. At the very least it should be 3 layers and one layer should be moisture absorbent. As far as actual standards for them there aren't many for surgical masks other than "Medical grade"
Almost all of the Chinese ones I have seen are 2 layers and do very little due to their cheap materials used.
This is largely avoided when buying from a pharmacy as they are all confirmed to be medical grade.
That is a shame NSW health isn't giving any clear direction
The direction is quite clear. A lack of specification means that the direction is not based on any scientific evidence, but rather what feels good on the day.
This is why the mask mandates are stupid.
This is largely avoided when buying from a pharmacy as they are all confirmed to be medical grade
"Medical Grade" isn't a standard, it's a marketing term. A standard is defined by some sort of standards authority such as Standards Australia that refers to an actual specification. For single use mask used in medical care it is AS4381:2015 defined here:https://www.atfa.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/Australian-Standard-for-Single-use-face-masks.pdf
The fact that we have defined standards for medical masks but the policy does not refer to them tells you all you need to know about the theatre around mask laws.
Softmed is used in our public hospital wards fwiw. And are made in Aust according to the box.
The equivalent cost to bring this deal up to a 50 pack would be $21.14 + shipping. Hardly worth it when you can pop down to any Chemist Warehouse to get a pack of 50 for less.
Kogan have them for $9.90 /50 pack delivered. Very good quality and I'm no fan of Kogan.
Kogan have them for $9.90
I doubt they are the Australian made ones.
Link?
Odd fact but I recently did some work with an occupational hygienist who picked up a box of these exact masks and he made a specific comment that the material and layers of these ones were really good for this type of mask. He suggested nicking a few for Xmas plane travel!
They stop you having a fine
Libertarians are a selfish lot
You'd get on well with the NSW Premier.
Yes let’s all take advice from someone who believes there’s a god.
Why do you anti maskers always invoke god? Did god also provided us with covid?
I would say they'd answer that with a yes….
Nature provided both the air and the virus.
You should go out naked all the time. Let the skin breathe the fresh air and enjoy the sunburn the God gave us.
Don't use any sun screen either it's poisonous. Skin cancer doesn't exist it's those corrupted scientists tricking you into buying more sun protection products.
It says manufactured in Australia, which I'm assuming means by Aussies using machines that are located in Australia,
It doesn't state Australian materials I'm sure you'll get plenty more information contacting the company, not yelling at some helpful stranger online, trying to save everyone money..
You are doing a lot of yelling.
I just buy non medical on eBay
$50 for 500 regular 3 layer
$100 for 500 kn95
Any link you can send us?
would prefer N95s with head straps
Was the KN95 individually wrapped?
Probably shit material
is decent. but obviously if you are after superior quality you probably won't shop on ebay.
If anyone is after real protection, you need to be fit tested to N95 masks. Wearing whatever from eBay doesn't make you COVID invincible unfortunately.
@Poor Ass: incorrect. with proper gear (faceshield/eyewear protection etc) properly fitted and appropriately donned N95 masks are effective to prevent the wearer getting COVID. It's the reason why hospitals are drowning in PPE trash right now.
Have bought these before and can vouch for their quality. Thick and not at all flimsy.
Mind you these are surgical masks with Level 3 blood resistance. For everday use you don't necessarily need the ability to stop high velocity blood strikes!
Found them fine in winter but getting a bit hot in summer.
Would recoomend the 3 layer Community masks that are lighter and more confortable (bought a box of both at the same time). Also cheaper at $12 incl GST + delivery.
https://www.detpak.com/detpak/face-masks/w401m9001/
Ah damn it I already bought some!
$19.00 for delivery ..waoww
Can vouch for the quality of both, got a box of each type, the white community ones aren't too hot and breath well.
As far as blood splatter, it should also stop spit splatter and of both people wearing a mask then hopefully help for sneezing & coughing.
How do you deal with the breathing fog on glasses guys?
Contacts.
I pinch the top of the mask on my nose this helps
A band-aid or some sticky tape over the mask on your nose will keep most fog away.
By not wearing a mask
Anti fog wipe for glasses. But fogging meaning you didn't put your mask on properly.
Surgical masks are not designed to be relatively airtight around the edges. Fogging is normal and expected, unlike if you're wearing N95 masks
I usually use a mask holder, do the job most of the time.
the environmental impact of these masks are absolutely horrendous. You can't go a few metres without seeing one strewn on the street. But hey, at least we banned plastic straws…
As borat says…. Hi Five!
I definitely get your point, but plastic straws don't reduce viral spread during a pandemic.
A reusable cotton mask would be more eco friendly.
and also quite a lot less effective at reducing aerosol transmission
Apparently they're good enough for general precautionary use - https://www.health.gov.au/sites/default/files/documents/2020…
And I dare say much more effective than wearing a surgical mask under your chin ;)
@abb: so is wearing a scarf over your mouth i suppose, any covering is better than no covering. and a mask under chin is probably worse than not wearing a mask due to the contamination!
Still vouch for henry schein ones, quality is unbeatable however if you have a small face might run bit big!
You can pick up 2 boxes for $22 delivered.
https://www.healthcarexpress.com.au/dental-xpress-products/m…
But it is level 2.
Difference between level 2 and 3 would be negligible. Fit is much more important and the HS ones have less gaps than these detpak ones for me.
The only difference should be blood penetration resistance (180 vs 120), they should have the same filtration efficacy.
Come on brah